Archive for January 30th, 2013


Bully Reviews

Below is a post we published on July 17, 2012 to show our readers exactly what we meant by personal attacks on authors in reviews.  It was because of these reviews and the attention our blog received from our HuffPo article (post to come) that GR was forced to act and publicly publish their Terms of Service clarifying their reviewing policies.

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For today’s post, we want to show you some screencaps of reviews we deem inappropriate, or bully reviews.  Please note, the purpose of this site is not to fight against critical reviews.  It is to fight against bullying.  We are presenting these to you because we have had a few requests for what we consider inappropriate.  Why do we consider them inappropriate?  A book review is, strangely enough, a review of a BOOK and yet these “reviewers” just cannot seem to stop talking about authors.  So instead of telling you about bully reviews, we will show you.

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But we saved the best for last.  This review was written by a GR bully named Blythe who attacked and harassed a 14 year old girl for taking offense to Blythe’s language because, get this, Blythe is an 8th grade English teacher.  Below are couple excerpts from Blythe’s review:

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Michelle, the 14 year old, wrote in her review:

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To which Blythe responded in her own review at the bottom:

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Then Blythe rallied the bullies and attacked Michelle on the comment thread of Michelle’s review.  Archer, one of the three ringleaders, left this comment to Michelle:

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Okay, so, breathe slowly and let’s recap.  Lady Blythe is an 8th grade English teacher who lives in California.  Archer is a 20-something man who lives in Australia.  And this is how they treat a 14 year old girl.

Are you disgusted yet?

Wait!  There’s more.  Let’s check out Goodreads terms of service where it specifically talks about children and inappropriate content.  If a person creates an account on Goodreads, he or she has to agree to these terms:

You agree not to post User Content that: (i) may create a risk of harm, loss, physical or mental injury, emotional distress, death, disability, disfigurement, or physical or mental illness to you, to any other person, or to any animal; (ii) may create a risk of any other loss or damage to any person or property; (iii) seeks to harm or exploit children by exposing them to inappropriate content, asking for personally identifiable details or otherwise; (iv) may constitute or contribute to a crime or tort; (v) contains any information or content that we deem to be unlawful, harmful, abusive, racially or ethnically offensive, defamatory, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, harassing, humiliating to other people (publicly or otherwise), libelous, threatening, profane, or otherwise objectionable; (vi) contains any information or content that is illegal (including, without limitation, the disclosure of insider information under securities law or of another party’s trade secrets); or (vii) contains any information or content that you do not have a right to make available under any law or under contractual or fiduciary relationships; or (viii) contains any information or content that you know is not correct and current.

So, do you think Goodreads is enforcing its TOS?  From the evidence above, I’d say not.

Strange News

Okay, we just saw the weirdest thing happen today.  We’ve been getting several messages about an article written by Jonathon Gunson titled, Why Every Author Must Be on Goodreads in 2013.

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The article goes on to tell the reader exactly why, talking about the recent membership explosion and the “sales power of reviews”, etc. etc.

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Then at the bottom, readers left all kinds of comments praising Goodreads, praising Jonathon’s post and praising his success as a bestselling author.

Okay, so, this isn’t what was weird.  What was weird was what happened shortly after.  Other visitors left comments warning him and other authors about the dangers of GR – about the personal attacks on authors, the trolling, the fake reviews, the toxic environment etc.  None of the comments were incendiary or defamatory or “personal” as Jonathon claimed.  They were just stating an opinion and warning others.

Then, we were tipped off by Goronwy that Anna Karenina, a well-known BBG, stepped into it:

Whoa! I see Anna Karenina has responded to the critics and defended Goodreads! Does she work for Goodreads?

After that, there were some exchanges (you can imagine) and like Digital Book World, Jonathon started removing the nasty comments.  But he didn’t stop there.  He kept removing comments, even the comments that had originally been there.  The comments that were warning people about GR.  The only one he left up was this one:

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Then, someone named Jon confronted him about deleting comments and he said:

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It was obvious this was BS because the comments that had been there were definitely legit.  Dissenting but legit.  A few minutes later, we got this message from MT:

I’m a bit confused about Mr. Gunson’s Goodreads post. I looked up his author account on Goodreads of which he speaks so highly of, and I found his profile and book listings questionable. He has not updated any of his info or has made any posts. He has not uploaded product, author, or book links at all. His books don’t even have cover art. Given he recommended Goodreads without any understanding of how it works says a bit about his practice. I think his post was basically an attempt to gain buyers for his how to use twitter books and his goodreads post is to help qualify him as an professional. That’s my take on him. I think your link back to his website completely derailed his attempts to gain more readers. lol. I’m sure he just landed himself a blip on the BBA radar.

And then MT left this:

Correction. He hasn’t even joined goodreads under an author account. WTF.

And then this:

I know… I almost wish I didn’t look now. Not only does he NOT have a Goodreads account, NONE of his How to Twitter for Author books are listed on Goodreads nor his FREE Author Guide… The WTF’s just keep coming.

So we went to Jonathon’s GR author page and found that MT was exactly right:

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We doubled checked to see if it was the same Jonathon Gunson and found this on his :

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You see.  Definitely the same guy.

So… so… I guess every author must be on Goodreads, except Jonathon Gunson?  Huh?  *scratches head*

But hold on because that’s not all.  We went back to Jonathon’s article and found these two comments that were left:

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Guess what.  That’s right!  These two comments are no longer there.

Hmm… wonder what this guy’s afraid of.

Now, when I asked Athena if I could write a post about this, she said yes, but on one condition.  That I make it clear to everyone that STGRB sees Goodreads as a good place for authors if they know who to avoid and what to look out for.  If an author already knows the territory, they can have a positive experience there.  But if they don’t know (as most new authors don’t), it can be a hell.  And we all agree that GR would be a great place if the GR bullies didn’t exist (and the sexual content that we just learned about recently from Carroll.)  In fact, if these two things were suddenly wiped off the face of GR (the bullies and the harmful content for kids), we would agree with Jonathon wholeheartedly.  In that case, every author would definitely need to be on GR.

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