It has come to our attention that certain people (i.e. the GR bullies who attacked Lauren) are questioning her claim that she received threats of rape, sodomy, and murder on Goodreads simply because she didn’t have screenshots to prove it. Of course she didn’t have screenshots! She was new to the website and didn’t know she would need to prove this to anyone or that the whole thing would blow up like it did. She didn’t even know that reviewers were allowed to review her book pre-release! Only those who’ve had years of experience with these people (i.e. us) know that you need to immediately screencap everything before you report them. You need to be able to prove what they’ve done.
So, since we arrived late on the scene, we went looking for proof. What we’ve found so far is TinaNicole’s sodomy-by-lawn-sculpture shelf (which has since been deleted by GR) and a witness to the event that we found on The Passive Voice. It is Anne R. Allen, the writer who authored Gangs of New Media that we have featured on our sidebar. On the Passive Voice, she says:
This comment was in response to Issendai (who is a member of the GR bullies) when she tried to call Lauren’s claims into question. Anne stepped in to set the record straight.
We’d also like to let everyone know that PG had to shut down the discussion thread on his post early and clear out some of the nastier comments left by the trolls who swarmed in to attack his usual blog readers. This is the third time he’s had to do that with these trolls, so he’s used to it.
PG’s good like that. He cleans house quick :).
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Tonight I’ve been hearing of Salon (ack!) and Absolute Write (ick!) posting ‘updates’ about the situation, and guess what they conclude? The author is just another whiny woes-is-me author.
Give me a break. Like I would trust those two cesspits for accurate information for anything.
The gangs sure are going on the offensive now! You know, how some go to assault trials and go “Well, look at how she dressed/talked/walked/dared to show her face. She was asking for it!” There was a nice little comment at The Passive Voice, and I quote:
“…I don’t see a squeaky-clean ‘victim’.”
Guess what? None of us are perfect. Doesn’t mean the author deserved this dogpile with this level of venom. No way.
It’s truly stomach-turning.
Smarmy “Uncle Jim” James of Absolute Write has absolutely no credibility. He’s a hack writer who acts like he knows what he’s talking about, when really he’s the laughing stock of that site. Nothing worse than a smarmy old hack-blowhard spouting drivel and nonsense (under the guise of actually knowing something), all the while pretending to be your “friendly neighborhood uncle.” *SHUDDERS*
Exactly! ;D
I saw it too. I watched this play out. TinaNicole’s other shelf was “Aggressive male affection in prison” or somesuch. If you were new to the site, I can easily see how you would think those things were aimed at you. She’s young and didn’t know.
Quite frankly, I”m shocked at the way they are badgering her on her Twitter account. It’s awful, bordering on criminal. Issendai is making itself look like an asshole (Can’t tell if it’s male or female). They’re showing themselves to be exactly what they are accused of being on that website and the others they swarm. They clearly don’t like and aren’t used to people supporting the authors they target.
The rating system on Goodreads is obviously a joke if you can star a book that isn’t even released yet. The sme thing applies to friend/family five-star reviews and revenge one-star reviews. Knowing that, why would anyone take Goodreads seriously? It’s time to turn off the lights and shut the door.
I have it on good authority that quite a few GR accounts got deleted yesterday. I am going to remove some things from mine and delete it. Does anyone know of a website where readers and authors don’t go at each other like rabid animals?
“Does anyone know of a website where readers and authors don’t go at each other like rabid animals?”
This site.
WTF does “aggressive male affection in prison” have anything to do with a book? That’s the dumbest f–king thing I’ve seen yet from these bullies, and an even dumber f–king name for a shelf. It also says a lot that Tina thinks of herself as a “bad ass”. She was probably a nobody in school and now trying to make up for it by joining the GR terrorists, because they give her a purpose in life.
Bitch.
When I was being attacked by TinaNicole “bad ass” she was arguing that a self proclaimed NON edited book that she NEVER even read. She put it on her filthy shelves and went to town on me and anyone else defending the book. She said it should not be read because it wasn’t edited (but in it’s description it states as such). It was a book by victims (myself being one) NOT Eve Thomas who put it together. I am NOT an author, nor are any of the other contributors that I know of, and the stories were left as WE submitted them to keep the validity of the stories in our own words. TinaNicole was almost the worst, but I do remember Issendai, Coaxial Creature and Linda Hilton to mention a few. NONE of these people even read the book, which I just don’t get how you review a book you haven’t read? I just Thank you guys here at STGRB for having a platform that we all can come to and validate that WE are NOT the crazy ones, well not bullies anyway
They’re scrambling cause they know they got caught showing what horrid creatures they are. They aren’t a part of humanity cause of the way they treat their fellow man/woman.
The trolls published a link to a court case of mine on Salon.
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/21/debut_author_allegedly_got_rape_threats_on_goodreads/
Go there and point out to salon this is a typical attack and it happens constantly in Badreads and Amazon. Also ask them why they have allowed the trolls to trash their poster and they haven’t removed the post to the link to my court case. WTF does that have to do with the story?
(TinaNicole) meant exactly what she said in her shelves and those shelf comments were directed at Lauren. Tina wished sodomy and rape in prison on her. She hides behind the facade of shelving just like the rest of the monsters do. She and her troll friends are throwing a fit trying to turn it around and blame the victim for their shelf threats. Damage control’s a bitch, isn’t it Tina? All of the bullies abuse the shelving system to insult and threaten authors, and now it finally backfired. They viciously attacked a young, innocent girl who dared to ask a question and threatened and wished harm upon her. That is who they are, and this is what Goodreads considers acceptable behavior on their disgusting website. The ONLY time they step in to defend the Author is when it hurts their reputation. Otherwise they could care less.
As for Derrick; in a brave new world, a new enemy, a new darkness… That’s me you little punk. Actually, I’ll do what Easy Tina does and just create a new book shelf titled, “watch your back”.
And just for the record, as Easy Tina would say, that bookshelf I created above is a reminder to me that we have little girlie-boys like Derrick skipping around Goodreads on their tiptoes armed with a star-tipped wand targeting little girl love stories. Luckily I write big-boy horror, but I’m sure he’ll twirl and prance on over and wave his fem wand in my direction chanting, “Take that!”
This just gets worse and worse. I feel so bad for the author involved, and for all young women who might be thinking of writing and releasing a book nowadays.
The most disheartening thing is that some of the biggest misogynists on Goodreads are young women themselves.
I wish I would have known about this site before I published too. I may have reconsidered myself. Unfortunately, people have bought my book , and I owe it to them to finish the series out. I am considering taking on a whole new identity when I am done. (Don’t worry, I won’t do this, but it is tempting. I am so sick of being attacked myself).
We as writers spend so much time sculpting our books and to have someone come along and trash it on one of their asshalt shelf (where they tend to love whore, butt love, and everything else that runs amuck in their disgusting minds), is heart wrenching.
I just want to write and if you want to judge me, judge me on what I write in my books. They spend so much time shelving authors without reading their books, that it makes me wonder if they even read books at all. One of the cyber bullies stated they didn’t like my book because of my cover. Well, it is funny when I looked up his friends, he happen to be friends with all the people who attacked my book. Humm.
Interesting post here. I’ve often wondered about their shelving process too. It seems that alot of it is politically motivated at times. I’ve In reading many posts I’ve seen that there is definitely a smell of political correctness, extremism and of course radicalism. And I’ve seen this at both ends of the spectrum, meaning, left and right extremism.
Being a middle of the road person politically, I am comparing some of this behavior to the behavior I’ve experienced with friends of mine who have sunk into all kinds of political craziness, again, from left to right. Once a person becomes obsessed with an agenda, they end up having their lives consumed by extremism it seems. In looking at some of the behavior of these bully trolls, I can see the relationship between what they profess in their rants, and crazy ass extremism.
Each bully troll has a radical agenda from some personal experience in their life, that’s what I see! For instance, I looked up one really hysterical bully troll who may or may not be a victim of rape, but her rants all over the entire internet indicate that she has a vendetta against men, especially military men. If you look these trolls up, follow their rants, you can plainly see that they have an agenda and a vendetta. Then they go seeking out anyone who writes about the very thing that haunts them in their lives. It’s as plain as day to me. This is all about radicalism gone insane by individuals who are determined to pick on innocent writers, and that’s why sometimes it appears so bizarre and ridiculous because the writer they’ve picked on out of the blue, has no clue WHY.
I know. It’s ridiculous that people expect her to have gotten screenshots. When someone is attacked like she was, they’re not thinking, “Ooh, I better get screenshots of this!” They’re thinking, “What the hell? These people are crazy!”
I was lucky another author had told me to take screen shots at it was happening to me. So glad I did.
“…simply because she didn’t have screenshots to prove it”
This reminds of me the police officers words when she told me the man who raped me would go without punishment:
“There’s not enough proof so the prosecutor decided not to take him to court”
I didn’t have a surveillance camera in my room and I didn’t have bruises on my body because I didn’t want to get hurt worse. The second time it happened (another man), I didn’t bother going to the police.
I’m appalled that anyone could wish something so vile on another person.
Frankly my experience online is the people who are really into screen shots tend to be bullies who like to catch their victims out after stirring them up. The rest of us don’t run around screencapping everything so we can use random posts against people.
This is true. This is why neither Lauren nor the others got shots of what Anne saw. They just didn’t think about it at the time.